How To Form An Electronic Technician Association?
I got an interesting question from ERG member and this is the question:
“Could you please give me a suggestion or ideas regarding how to formed an electronics technician
association in our area.”
My answer to him was:
Hi E,
This is a very good question but i have not come across such experience before. I guess you may have to see them personally and tell them the benefits of why they should join the association. Give them many solid reasons so that they will join it. Reasons like getting schematic, spare parts, discussion on how to solve electronic problems especially new products and new design in the market and etc.
Charge a monthly fees where you will have some funds to organize place to meet that cover foods and drinks and use for other purposes as well and also for the benefit of the members like buying new repair books to put into a small library and etc. The sky is the limit and if you could formed this association i guess each and every one in the association would be tremendously bless by the wealth of information shared by fellow members.
Jestine
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ananda k
January 6, 2009 at 7:07 pm
actualy a good idea but creating an unity with service engineers is not a easy task considering the so many factors.
admin
January 6, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Hi Ananda,
Yes you are absolutely right but guess Mr E have to do some extra work in order to convince them to join the association.
Jestine
Live Wire Test
May 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Probably, that's a pretty good idea. But it's not easy to create an unity with engineers. But at times, being a member in a group or a unity will desperately help out.
James Berger
November 28, 2009 at 11:19 am
Justine,
I have just found you via Google and feel an electronics discussion forum is a much needed vehicle to cover everything from circuit discussion, software issues, design and failure rates, to jobs and pay scale. I am a 35 year veteran in this field and have seen everything from early Vacuum tube design, the first solid state designs using germanium transistors, and silicone design from it's infancy to the most recent miniaturization standards and surface mount technology.
There seems to be a lot of confusion out there as to what an electronic tech actually does from the view of employers. I've had to interview guys at my company who call themselves E.T.s only to find out their only experience in the field is with automated testing of PC boards. In other words, pass/fail analysis. No component level troubleshooting, reading or understanding schematics, component identification, soldering skills, or use and understanding of test equipment. On the other hand, some company's are looking for guys with all of the above AND must know hydraulics, welding, hi-lo driving, neumatics, HVAC, cooking, bar tending, space shuttle exploration, nuclear physics, and oh..........PLC's. Pay scale = $12.00 per hour.
It seems that it's one of the most misunderstood occupations out there.
Anyway, I'll end here for now.
I'm glad I found your blog and feel free to comment.
Jim
admin
November 28, 2009 at 11:40 pm
HI James,
Thanks for the posting. I agree with you that many of the E.T.s do not really know about electronic component level troubleshooting. Those days when they came for interview i would give them 10 practical questions and i was surprised that many of the diploma holder can't even pass the test.
Question like- "what is the function of a transformer"? Most of them answered "to convert AC into DC".
Have a good day!
Jestine
James Berger
December 7, 2009 at 6:04 am
I think an electronic tech association is a great idea. It could be divided up into categories to cover different types of electronic work. I:E: Manufacturing, consumer, computer, audio, video, PLC, etc., etc. One huge advantage to this type of group is being able to directly compare wages in different geographical areas and in different types of electronic work. Comparing technical schools, having a source for help, suggestions, schematics, parts and just a place to vent some issues would also be great. I've been a tech and business owner for 30 years in the entertainment business but as of one year ago, I am now doing manufacturing electronics. Automated door controls and machine troubleshooting. I've had to go it alone without help from anyone but, it could have been better with a group like this.
Anyway, there's my nickels worth.
Jim
James Berger
December 7, 2009 at 6:30 am
Jestine,
I apologize for not noticing your reply earlier but, I do know what you mean about questioning or interviewing candidates for a job. The company where I work now decided to hire someone about a month after I started and they hired the first person that walked in the door and "claimed" to be a tech without knowing how to ask the right questions at the interview. They put this new person to work with me and within a matter of one hour it was abundently clear that something was terribly wrong. They ended up letting this guy go and setting up a new interview with a small group of people but, this time they had me do the interviewing. I prepared a very basic test on component identification, schematic symbols, and a few questions about troubleshooting and test equipment. All of the job candidates had Bachelors Degrees in electronics but, only one person came close to answering most of the questions correctly. I was absolutely shocked because I thought I'd get laughed at for how easy my test was. I hired the best person and now after 7 months, I am still showing him basic electronics. Almost every day he amazes me with things like putting ALL fuses in the same box since after all, they all "look" the same. All resistors "look" the same too so I asked if he knew the color code. He said "the what".
He doesn't measure any high state logic voltages and slowly works his way back to the power supply and discovers the A.C. mains fuse is blown.
I found out his Bachelors Degree was earned from an on-line University. Hmmmmm???
Jim
admin
December 7, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Hi James,
Thanks for the comment. I did observed that those who do well in this line seems to have a great passion in electronics and not that "i study electronics because my parents want me to do so". Two weeks ago i had a student that purposely drove from Singapore (about 5 to 6 hours drive) in the early Saturday morning and start the class at 9.00am and drove back to Singapore again on Sunday. The fire in him could hardly be seen in the youngster now.
Jestine
DEBONY
June 24, 2010 at 11:39 pm
CURRENTLY RECEIVED AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE IN ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS TECHNOLOGY, HOWEVER HAVING DIFFICULT TIME OBTAINING WORK WITHIN MY CHOSEN FIELD. MOST OF THE COMPANIES I'VE HAD INTERVIEWS WITH ALWAYS LOOK FOR EXPERIENCE YET HAVE THE JOBS LISTED AS ENTRY LEVEL. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET A JOB IF NO ONE IS WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND HIRE ME. I CURRENTLY LIVE IN LOUISIANA YET WILLING TO RELOCATE TO JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE. ALSO LOOKING FOR AN APPRENTICESHIP OR EVEN AN INTERNSHIP POSITION. ANY INFO ANYONR CAN OFFER ME I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
admin
June 29, 2010 at 8:46 am
HI Debony,
I have posted the answer in my blog (home).
Jestine
Amir Mukhtar
August 24, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Nice Share
thanks you sir
Amir Mukhtar