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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-366510&quot;&gt;Michele&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry Michele for my late reply, but all circuits including the 4060 circuit are already given in the article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-366510">Michele</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry Michele for my late reply, but all circuits including the 4060 circuit are already given in the article.</p>
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		By: Michele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2020 19:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Albert,
Thanks for what you do.
Could you give me the circuit diagram please?
Thanks
Michele]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Albert,<br />
Thanks for what you do.<br />
Could you give me the circuit diagram please?<br />
Thanks<br />
Michele</p>
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		By: Robert Calk Jr.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Calk Jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2019 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356515&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Albert,

I am going to build this circuit that Alan uses in this video so I can test any crystal easily. https://youtu.be/blalAktxFoI]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356515">Albert van Bemmelen</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Albert,</p>
<p>I am going to build this circuit that Alan uses in this video so I can test any crystal easily. https://youtu.be/blalAktxFoI</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2019 05:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By-the-way: The much larger quartz crystals (about 19.5 x 17 x 7 mm) are much easier to test! For instance a 4433.619 KHz crystal can be checked on the oscillator of a Gate-Dipper. The dip occurs at the oscillating frequency of the crystal. Because these crystals are much larger it only is required to connect one of both crystal pins to the Gate-Dipper circuit. The other pin of the crystal doesn&#039;t even have to be attached to anything for this and be left unconnected. I used my Monacor LDM-815 Transistor Dipmeter when I noticed this quite remarkable effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By-the-way: The much larger quartz crystals (about 19.5 x 17 x 7 mm) are much easier to test! For instance a 4433.619 KHz crystal can be checked on the oscillator of a Gate-Dipper. The dip occurs at the oscillating frequency of the crystal. Because these crystals are much larger it only is required to connect one of both crystal pins to the Gate-Dipper circuit. The other pin of the crystal doesn't even have to be attached to anything for this and be left unconnected. I used my Monacor LDM-815 Transistor Dipmeter when I noticed this quite remarkable effect.</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356507&quot;&gt;Robert Calk Jr.&lt;/a&gt;.

Robert, they say that with AVR microcontrollers it is somehow possible to circumvent the activated copy protection flag that prohibits reading and saving the preprogrammed data. But I do not know anything about doing that for PIC microcontrollers. With AVR processors that are locked if the configurations bits are set wrong we no longer can re-program them by their ICSP or ISP connection that is lost afterwards. But that can be overruled by simple reprogram those locked AVR&#039;s in a parallel programmer to unlock them. And I believe I&#039;ve seen some special NE555 circuits that can do the same.]]></description>
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<p>Robert, they say that with AVR microcontrollers it is somehow possible to circumvent the activated copy protection flag that prohibits reading and saving the preprogrammed data. But I do not know anything about doing that for PIC microcontrollers. With AVR processors that are locked if the configurations bits are set wrong we no longer can re-program them by their ICSP or ISP connection that is lost afterwards. But that can be overruled by simple reprogram those locked AVR's in a parallel programmer to unlock them. And I believe I've seen some special NE555 circuits that can do the same.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Calk Jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356462&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, that is the one! I have two of them. One works, but I accidently erased the PIC in the other one. It would not let me read and save the data, but it sure let me erase the data!
I should have just built a little test jig and used my scope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356462">Albert van Bemmelen</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, that is the one! I have two of them. One works, but I accidently erased the PIC in the other one. It would not let me read and save the data, but it sure let me erase the data!<br />
I should have just built a little test jig and used my scope.</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 05:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your kind comments are like the very professional repairs you share always very welcome Parasuraman! Thank You!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your kind comments are like the very professional repairs you share always very welcome Parasuraman! Thank You!</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356457&quot;&gt;BEH&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Beh! I hope your Opamp Tester now completely functions correctly with all Opamps it can test!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Beh! I hope your Opamp Tester now completely functions correctly with all Opamps it can test!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356462&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

I guess you probably tried to copy the PIC and found out that it was copy protected while it was programmed. And in that case you are right there! The TL866 only reads 0000 as data. And the RT809H is incapable in testing these PICs. The RT only sees some 12F family PICs. The guys who sell these with protected PIC programmed Crystal Tester Kits probably are also the same guys from whom I got the dislikes for my article?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/how-to-test-quartz-crystals-found-in-watches/comment-page-1/#comment-356462">Albert van Bemmelen</a>.</p>
<p>I guess you probably tried to copy the PIC and found out that it was copy protected while it was programmed. And in that case you are right there! The TL866 only reads 0000 as data. And the RT809H is incapable in testing these PICs. The RT only sees some 12F family PICs. The guys who sell these with protected PIC programmed Crystal Tester Kits probably are also the same guys from whom I got the dislikes for my article?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent! Very useful article and I learnt something new from you! Testing the resonators outside the circuit is a must for all electronic technicians. Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Very useful article and I learnt something new from you! Testing the resonators outside the circuit is a must for all electronic technicians. Thank you!</p>
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