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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374072&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

Update: Programming the RAMTRON FerroMagnetic FM16w08 chips for my Tektronix 2465A scope with the brandnew TL866II is simply impossible! Although they are supported in the device list the universal programmer sadly kept giving at least 24 verify errors. And also a second brandnew FM16w08 failed in the same way!
Luckily my RT809H was completely capable to program, read and verify both memory chips perfectly! But only after I upgraded the windows program to new version 20210222. Because previous RT809H version only supported the FM1808 type for my 2440 Tek scope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374072">Albert van Bemmelen</a>.</p>
<p>Update: Programming the RAMTRON FerroMagnetic FM16w08 chips for my Tektronix 2465A scope with the brandnew TL866II is simply impossible! Although they are supported in the device list the universal programmer sadly kept giving at least 24 verify errors. And also a second brandnew FM16w08 failed in the same way!<br />
Luckily my RT809H was completely capable to program, read and verify both memory chips perfectly! But only after I upgraded the windows program to new version 20210222. Because previous RT809H version only supported the FM1808 type for my 2440 Tek scope.</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374065&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

Warning! Although the 62256 SRAMS in the Tek 2440 scope look exactly easy IN-CIRCUIT READABLE as the 4464 SRAM does that also is only connected to the Backup Keeper Lithium Battery in the 2465A scope if the scope is powered off (meaning no data- or addressbus conflict!). However reading the calibration data from the Tek 2440 SRAM chip completely failed verify wise. I made a special 28 pins 27c256 eprom to 28 pins 62256 testclip reader cable and attached it to my TL866II and after that also with my G540 universal programmer. But both failed to read the data without any read error! And afterwards I needed to SELF CALIBRATE the 2440 like explained in this repair article. But I again was able to PASS all previous scope errors that occur when the NVRAM or the calibration in it was corrupted. Which now still only leaves the External Calibration (Ext Cal) procedure that is at fault and just requires removing a jumper on the scope&#039;s mainboard and manually calibrate the scope&#039;s inputs by providing a few good calibrated signals to setup the internal CCD memory and adjust the amplifier values in NVRAM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374065">Albert van Bemmelen</a>.</p>
<p>Warning! Although the 62256 SRAMS in the Tek 2440 scope look exactly easy IN-CIRCUIT READABLE as the 4464 SRAM does that also is only connected to the Backup Keeper Lithium Battery in the 2465A scope if the scope is powered off (meaning no data- or addressbus conflict!). However reading the calibration data from the Tek 2440 SRAM chip completely failed verify wise. I made a special 28 pins 27c256 eprom to 28 pins 62256 testclip reader cable and attached it to my TL866II and after that also with my G540 universal programmer. But both failed to read the data without any read error! And afterwards I needed to SELF CALIBRATE the 2440 like explained in this repair article. But I again was able to PASS all previous scope errors that occur when the NVRAM or the calibration in it was corrupted. Which now still only leaves the External Calibration (Ext Cal) procedure that is at fault and just requires removing a jumper on the scope's mainboard and manually calibrate the scope's inputs by providing a few good calibrated signals to setup the internal CCD memory and adjust the amplifier values in NVRAM.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 08:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Tektronix 2440 memory oscilloscope the SRAMs are type 62256 32K memory chips. And they can be replaced by Ferro magnetic chips type FM1808 28DIP memory chips that without the need of any Lithium backup battery hold their data for at least 10 years (retention time 10 years)! Only the SRAM positioned at U664 stores the calibration data and better needs this FerroMagnetic chip calibration safety upgrade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Tektronix 2440 memory oscilloscope the SRAMs are type 62256 32K memory chips. And they can be replaced by Ferro magnetic chips type FM1808 28DIP memory chips that without the need of any Lithium backup battery hold their data for at least 10 years (retention time 10 years)! Only the SRAM positioned at U664 stores the calibration data and better needs this FerroMagnetic chip calibration safety upgrade.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374062&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

PS: there is no need to remove any of the databuffer chips or the CPU to be able to read the data in the 4464 SRAM because if the scope is powered off there is no address or databus line conflict since at that moment the Sram will be the only functioning component in the 2465A (or the 2440 or other equally designed Tektronix) scope!]]></description>
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<p>PS: there is no need to remove any of the databuffer chips or the CPU to be able to read the data in the 4464 SRAM because if the scope is powered off there is no address or databus line conflict since at that moment the Sram will be the only functioning component in the 2465A (or the 2440 or other equally designed Tektronix) scope!</p>
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		By: Albert van Bemmelen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-374059&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

Update: The Tektronix 2440 SRAMS are HM62256 32KB type rams that require the special FM1808-70-PG ferro magnetic memory chips instead the FM16w08 (or the FM1608 DIP) that have 4 times more memory capacity compared to the original DS1230 32K chips often used in the 2440 memory oscilloscope. I was able to buy 2 FM1808s DIP on eBay for only US$5.89 (about 4,95 Euro). And they have a worry free retention time of 10 years without the need of any dangerous lithium backup battery. That also can leak in time! The above mentioned testclip with 28 pins socket cable can still be used after pin 26 is reattached to the testclip and its 100 ohm pullup is removed because it here is addressline A13 instead of the CE pin it was on the 4464 SRAM.]]></description>
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<p>Update: The Tektronix 2440 SRAMS are HM62256 32KB type rams that require the special FM1808-70-PG ferro magnetic memory chips instead the FM16w08 (or the FM1608 DIP) that have 4 times more memory capacity compared to the original DS1230 32K chips often used in the 2440 memory oscilloscope. I was able to buy 2 FM1808s DIP on eBay for only US$5.89 (about 4,95 Euro). And they have a worry free retention time of 10 years without the need of any dangerous lithium backup battery. That also can leak in time! The above mentioned testclip with 28 pins socket cable can still be used after pin 26 is reattached to the testclip and its 100 ohm pullup is removed because it here is addressline A13 instead of the CE pin it was on the 4464 SRAM.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today 10 April &#039;21 I was successfully able to copy the 4464 8192Bytes (8K) SRAM in my Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope that also contains all Calibration data.
I modified my 28 pin testclamp with 28 pins socket and used my TL866II as 27c64 eprom reader to extract the content of my RAM as bin copy. Simply by adding a 1N4148 diode to Vcc of the 28 pins socket this way accidentally avoiding losing the backup lithium voltage on pin 28 of the 4464 static RAM while starting to read it. And added two 100 ohm resistors to pin 27 (/PGM) and pin 26 (nc on 27c64 but CE on the 4464!) are pullups to prevent accidentally writing instead reading the SRAM. (both wires from testclamp to the 28 pins socket therefore can be left unconnected). But therefore you also disable the pin contact test in the TL866II program and do not need the chip ID check either. And after reading the Ram also verify it to make sure it was read correctly without errors! I already ordered 2 FM16w08 special Ferromagnetic RAMs that never lose their data even without any Lithium backup voltage present. One will be used to replace the 4464 in my 2465A scope the other will be used in my 2440 as soon I&#039;ve also successfully backupped that SRAM. And because the square pins on the 16w08 to DIP adapter board are too thick for the standard IC sockets to be insreted into the scope SRAM position I also ordered 2 ZeroForce 28 pins 3M textool sockets that easily fit into the mainboard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today 10 April '21 I was successfully able to copy the 4464 8192Bytes (8K) SRAM in my Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope that also contains all Calibration data.<br />
I modified my 28 pin testclamp with 28 pins socket and used my TL866II as 27c64 eprom reader to extract the content of my RAM as bin copy. Simply by adding a 1N4148 diode to Vcc of the 28 pins socket this way accidentally avoiding losing the backup lithium voltage on pin 28 of the 4464 static RAM while starting to read it. And added two 100 ohm resistors to pin 27 (/PGM) and pin 26 (nc on 27c64 but CE on the 4464!) are pullups to prevent accidentally writing instead reading the SRAM. (both wires from testclamp to the 28 pins socket therefore can be left unconnected). But therefore you also disable the pin contact test in the TL866II program and do not need the chip ID check either. And after reading the Ram also verify it to make sure it was read correctly without errors! I already ordered 2 FM16w08 special Ferromagnetic RAMs that never lose their data even without any Lithium backup voltage present. One will be used to replace the 4464 in my 2465A scope the other will be used in my 2440 as soon I've also successfully backupped that SRAM. And because the square pins on the 16w08 to DIP adapter board are too thick for the standard IC sockets to be insreted into the scope SRAM position I also ordered 2 ZeroForce 28 pins 3M textool sockets that easily fit into the mainboard.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-258287&quot;&gt;Humberto&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Humberto. I just fixed some new repairs.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Humberto. I just fixed some new repairs.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Albert, good photos and explanations. Keep up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Albert, good photos and explanations. Keep up.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert van Bemmelen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2015 06:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jestineyong.com/tektronix-2440-oscilloscope-repaired-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-258111&quot;&gt;Albert van Bemmelen&lt;/a&gt;.

By-the-way: I also do have a original Hameg HZ65 Component tester that works similar like the Huntron Testdevice you mentioned. But the thing with these kind of testers is that you likely do need to compare the curve of a presumably Bad Semiconductor with the one of a second Semiconductor V/i curve that you know is still 100% OKAY. So you probably never can be very sure when you test on a Bad working Device. Because the Testcables also influence the way how the Scopecurve is displayed.]]></description>
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<p>By-the-way: I also do have a original Hameg HZ65 Component tester that works similar like the Huntron Testdevice you mentioned. But the thing with these kind of testers is that you likely do need to compare the curve of a presumably Bad Semiconductor with the one of a second Semiconductor V/i curve that you know is still 100% OKAY. So you probably never can be very sure when you test on a Bad working Device. Because the Testcables also influence the way how the Scopecurve is displayed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2015 16:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed we all owe a lot of thanks to Mr. Jestine Yong who maybe has one of the Best, if not The Best Internet Electronics Repair Site in the World. 
And he soon will publish the Final part#4 of this 2440 Tektronix Oscilloscope Repair article. That article shows how to save $600 dollar on Calibrating Costs after which the Oscilloscope will be completely Fixed and Ready!
So if you liked the previous articles, there is more to come Mr. Hicham. And I must add that although I have many Electronic Analog &#038; Digital Instruments, like 4 Oscilloscopes etc., the Digital Universal Multimeter is still always my best used instrument. (Such as the Semiconductor Diode test, Voltage test. And like anyone I suppose the Current measurement is used less frequently). And before you measure anything you always better think, what and why you want to measure and always how you can do it safely. (for yourself and your components).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed we all owe a lot of thanks to Mr. Jestine Yong who maybe has one of the Best, if not The Best Internet Electronics Repair Site in the World.<br />
And he soon will publish the Final part#4 of this 2440 Tektronix Oscilloscope Repair article. That article shows how to save $600 dollar on Calibrating Costs after which the Oscilloscope will be completely Fixed and Ready!<br />
So if you liked the previous articles, there is more to come Mr. Hicham. And I must add that although I have many Electronic Analog &amp; Digital Instruments, like 4 Oscilloscopes etc., the Digital Universal Multimeter is still always my best used instrument. (Such as the Semiconductor Diode test, Voltage test. And like anyone I suppose the Current measurement is used less frequently). And before you measure anything you always better think, what and why you want to measure and always how you can do it safely. (for yourself and your components).</p>
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